Conversation with Kelly Carlin, August 3, 2012

Kelly Carlin is an essayist, storyteller and has too much on her mind most days. She hosts “Waking from the American Dream” where she has unexpected conversations with people that fascinate her.

Kelly shares her essay on perfectionism and what it means to be human; Genpo Roshi joins Kelly for the third time and they discuss the pitfalls of the spiritual path, perfectionism and why heroes fall.


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(Actual interview begins 20 minutes in to the recording.)

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